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    Default Independant fuel pump testing done by DSport puts Buschur Racing at the top!

    We were contacted two months ago and asked if we'd send in any fuel pump products we offered for the EVO8/9 and the EVOX, by DSport Magazine.

    We sent them our double pumper kit for both cars and hadn't heard anything back until we got the magazine in the mail.

    DSport tested 31 different fuel pumps and fuel pump assemblies from varying companies.

    Testing was compared at 75 psi of pressure, on an EVO that would put you at about 35 psi of boost. I also used the 14 volt testing for reference for this quick over view.

    The top external inline fuel pump was the Weldon 2345, which is a bad ass fuel pump. This is what we had on our Black Drag EVO. This pump flows enough for 2181 flywheel HP or 1853 at the wheels. The number 2 pump was the Edelbrock EFI inline which flowed enough for 1450 flywheel HP or 1267 at the wheels. Now obviously both of these pumps would need to have -10/-12 AN lines to flow this much and be used with a fuel cell. The point I am making is the flow of the pumps and eventually, how well our kits did stacked up against so many others that were tested.

    The #3 and #4 finishers in the testing for external inline type pumps were the Weldon 1100 and the Aeromotive A1000, both of these pumps flowed LESS than our intake double pumper, flowing 1050 whp and 866 whp respectively.

    This testing was divided into two groups, the inline/external pumps, of which I've mentioned the top four and the intake pump options. There were 20 inline/external pumps tested in all.

    The intake fuel pump testing covered another 11 options.

    The top flowing intank option was the MVP Motorsports TRIPLE intake fuel pump kit, this kit flowed enough for 1794 flywheel hp and 1525 whp.

    We took 2nd place in the testing behind MVP with our double pumper for the EVO8/9. The Buschur Racing EVO8/9 double pumper flowed enough fuel for 1268 flywheel hp and 1078 whp. Of the 31 pumps tested that put our double pumper kit in 4th place in the entire testing, something I am quite proud of. Where our kit really shine is at HIGH boost/HIGH fuel pump pressure. Our kit out flows the MVP kit at 95 and 100 psi of fuel, even with our kit being a twin pump. While there aren't many of us that are going to run that type of fuel pressure, it's good to know it capable. The AMP draw on our kit also only hits a max of 26.2 amps. Compared to some of the others tested this is as much as 40.1 AMPS LESS!



    Our EVOX kit was also tested and of the intake fuel pump options came in 4th place and that would put it at 6th place over all in the entire test. The EVOX it flowed enough for 1041 flywheel hp and 885 whp. Very proud of that one too.



    There were other EVO kits tested in the testing and it was nice coming out on top of so many pumps/kits.

    We've spent a lot of time working to get this right and I believe this testing shows just that.

    It's quite an interesting article with a lot of fuel pump and fuel delivery tech. It talks about the proper way to plumb multi-pump systems and tells why some don't work or flow only what a single pump does. I've seen many attempts of other shops/people at doing the EVO/DSM/Subaru kits that were horrible and this article explains why.

    Pick up the magazine, it's good information. Besides, as usual, there are hot girls in it!
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    And this is why I'm proud to say I own the double pumper in my tank and have loved it since day one! Good show sir, just goes to show how great the parts you and everyone at the shop produce!
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    thats kickass david!
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    This is very interesting David and was a great article for us. We were leaning towards a Aeromotive eliminator pump for our E85 shop car build but def looking into other things after reading this. Great test man.
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    Bump from the dead.

    David does your Double pumper for the STI flow the same then as the EVO 8/9 DP or just slightly less?

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    STI would flow closer to the EVOX I'd say because of the single outlet.

    Glad you bumped this though. If all goes well we are going to be making a major change on the double pumpers, making them output substantially more

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    Thats still pretty good for a drop-in solution. Will still work great for my friends project.

    Its pretty impressive what they flow already, can't imagine how much it could do with more improvements.

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    Quote Originally Posted by David Buschur View Post
    STI would flow closer to the EVOX I'd say because of the single outlet.

    Glad you bumped this though. If all goes well we are going to be making a major change on the double pumpers, making them output substantially more
    does this apply to evox only or the 8/9 too?
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    Rogue,

    Does what apply to the EVO 8/9?

    When you going to come by so I can see what your car is making on our dyno?

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    Quote Originally Posted by David Buschur View Post
    Rogue,

    Does what apply to the EVO 8/9?

    When you going to come by so I can see what your car is making on our dyno?
    The change for the double pumper.



    And - I guess you didnt hear the word from jarrod/nick. Two of my ID1000(no warning on their site) injectors stuck open when run on q16 and massively flooded the motor. Over a quart of gas in the oil in under 1 min of idling. Sent injectors back to ID - hoping to get new ones(ID2000's in soon) and praying the cylinders didnt get washed, Ill be LIVID. 481/444 was made on a mustang about 2 weeks ago on 93 only.

    I ask for the new pump design because when I get the new injectors back, i plan to move to the double pumper to run e85. So I was curious if I should wait for a product revision, or if that was only for the X?
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    OK, now I get the question, you quoted the wrong post and I was confused. Yes, the new "stuff" coming will be used on the EVO8-9 and X and all other fuel pump kits if it works out.

    I didn't ask you what it made on someone else's dyno, I asked when you are bringing it back here to dyno it. Someone's got a big mouth and I want to see what it makes here.

    There's no need to wait on the double pumper, the one we have now will supply more fuel than your car will need on E85.

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    David, will this modified double pumper increase flow such that you won't necessarily need to get ID2000s on E85? If so, I'm VERY interested in it. More details!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by David Buschur View Post
    OK, now I get the question, you quoted the wrong post and I was confused. Yes, the new "stuff" coming will be used on the EVO8-9 and X and all other fuel pump kits if it works out.

    I didn't ask you what it made on someone else's dyno, I asked when you are bringing it back here to dyno it. Someone's got a big mouth and I want to see what it makes here.

    There's no need to wait on the double pumper, the one we have now will supply more fuel than your car will need on E85.
    If the price is the same - ill likely wait. The black maxed out the id1000's anyways on pump, so why not upgrade.

    I just hope the motors fine.
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    The current fuel pumps are not a problem so a pump that flows more won't help an injector that is too small.

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